Roger Penrose, Slavoj Ε½iΕΎek, and Sabine Hossenfelder answer questions on quantum and philosophy
October 27th, 2025 at 8:25AMThe "universe" is not an entity. It's the "forest", not a "tree". It is a furiatingly unique concept, though, huh? π Because there's only one "existent" to which it refers. There are lots of "forests", in other words, but there's only one "universe" -- and it includes all the "forests" on earth. (π) But you don't need to be God to form it, to conceive the concept. There's literally nothing excluded from its meaning, nothing to which the word doesn't refer, but it is necessary to see "everything" from a physical, sense-perceptual (?) perspective, which is what differentiates it from similar concepts, such "reality" or "everything" or "nature". Describe anything that physically exists, in other words, and you're describing the universe, but any attempt to describe it as a unified whole leads to the non-existence of the "describer", "observer", whom-the fuck-ever is imagining "it". π If you really think about it, though, you can't observe and describe a forest as if it were an entity, either, especially when you're inside [of] it. Integration, reducing all trees to a symbol, is a human thing. The universe doesn't submit to our conceptual apprehension of it, to our limited observations and mathematical symbols and linguistic descriptions and inferred "natural" laws. We submit to it. π That's the standard of correctness. If a tree started acting like some animal or whatever, it would disturb the shit out of everyone, too. π That concept's set in stone, though. We could discover some new kind of physical force or new state of some heavenly body or alien lifeforms or whatever and it would totally change our concept of the universe, but it wouldn't the universe itself any more than a tree acting like some animal would change the nature of trees, and it would certainly be less disturbing because we learn new things about the universe all the time. We're not describing it right, however, not because our knowledge of it's constantly changing, and often rather significantly (nuclear power), but because we're not identifying it right, and I fear the latter is on purpose. π The universe is not an entity.